Ruminations on stupid people

Aweh dearly beloved fellow ruminants & groupies

What is a stupid person? As one does these days, I decided to consult the sensational new world oracle ChatGPT. For those of you who don’t know ChatGPT is a simple online artificial intelligence chatbot created by openAI and released at the beginning of December 2022.  Microsoft has recently made a $10 billion investment in ChatGPT. In just two months it has reached over 100 million active users.  It had this to say in answer to my question, “As a language model developed by OpenAI, I do not engage in labelling individuals with insults. It is not productive or respectful to call someone “stupid.” Intelligence is a complex and multi-faceted trait that cannot be accurately captured by a single label. People have different strengths, weaknesses, and challenges, and it is important to treat everyone with dignity and respect”. Consider me harshly and justly scolded for even asking the question.  

You are however allowed to ask what a clever person is, and the answer is, “a clever person is generally considered to be smart, astute, and quick-witted. They have a good understanding of situations and can think creatively to find solutions to problems. They are often able to understand complex ideas and concepts easily and can communicate their ideas effectively. However, it’s important to note that intelligence and cleverness can manifest in different ways, and someone may be considered clever in one aspect of their life and not in others”. A very good answer. So then someone can be clever in one respect and stupid in others I asked ChatGPT. Yes, that is correct began the answer. ChatGPT acknowledges that the concept of stupidity in people exists but declines to define it. Such is the nature of political correctness.  We acknowledge and celebrate the positive but shy away from the negative.

One of my groupies sent me an article about Bonhoeffer’s theory of stupidity which argues that we have more to fear from stupid people than evil ones. When we know someone is evil, we can take steps to fight it. With stupidity, it is much more difficult. There is the cliché that debating an idiot is like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory. The problem with stupidity, though, is that it often goes together with power. Bonhoeffer writes, “Upon closer observation, it becomes apparent that every strong upsurge of power in the public sphere, be it of a political or of a religious nature, infects a large part of humankind with stupidity.” Bonhoeffer was a Nazi dissident who was arrested for his views and later executed in a concentration camp. He said that if we want to get the better of stupidity, we must seek to understand its nature. To understand stupidity, we will need to look beyond ChatGPT.

An individual can act stupidly but much more damage is done when a group acts stupidly. Humans have evolved as social beings and following the herd is ingrained in all of us. Herd behaviour is among the pre-eminent causes of stupidity. In a famous set of experiments, Solomon Asch studied conformity in 1951. Fifty male college students from Swarthmore College in the USA participated in a ‘vision test.’ Using a line judgment task, Asch put a naive participant in a room with seven confederates/stooges. The confederates had agreed in advance on what their responses would be when presented with the line task. The actual participant did not know this and was led to believe that the other seven confederates/stooges were also actual participants like themselves. About a third of participants always conformed with clearly wrong answers and 75% conformed at least once. Only 25% of participants never conformed with wrong answers. There were no female participants and perhaps this just provides concrete evidence that men are stupider than women. Perhaps a useful definition of stupidity is conforming with the herd when it is clearly wrong. This may not lead to good outcomes for the non-conformists and their position in the herd. It did not end well for Bonhoeffer. Are non-conformists actually stupid? Perhaps the truly clever understand that their own self-interest and position in the herd has got nothing to do with the truth. The ultimate clever narcissist knows how to position themselves in the herd and become politicians or leaders.  Good politicians know how to exploit stupid people with populism. Just tell gullible people what they want to hear. The non-conformists who value truth are in the minority and are easily ostracised.

When one finds oneself in a group or organisation that starts to act stupidly it is often not in your best interests to be too critical or defiant. There are often harsh punitive measures for non-conformism and defiance. It is not always easy to leave the group and you need to find coping mechanisms.

Am I stupid or clever? What about you? Nobody likes to be labelled stupid. ChatGPT is right it is an insult. But, at times, I have been stupid perhaps even very stupid. Alcohol certainly doesn’t help. Fortunately, there are some politically incorrect people around me who will point out my stupidity. I need my critics. It also appears ChatGPT isn’t up to the job. Can I tell you if you are being stupid? Perhaps I won’t use the word stupid. ChatGPT suggests words like uninformed or inexperienced as being less harsh words than stupid. I have been called uninformed before. Now I know what they really meant.

Thank you for all the ideas and comments. I really appreciate them and please keep them coming.

Regards

Bruce

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63 year old South African cisgender male. My pronouns are he, him and his. This blog is where I exercise my bullshit deflectors, scream into the abyss, and generally piss into the wind because I can.

5 thoughts on “Ruminations on stupid people

  1. Paying money for an automated ( and woke) reply to which you already have a strong view seems pretty stupid to me – or maybe you got this in your first 5 free answers?

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  2. Hi Bruce,

    An other great article. One Einstein quote is “ Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not yet completely sure about the universe.”

    There was quote that circulated on social media, especially LinkedIn, in the few years that annoyed me more than it should. It went along the lines of “ If you’re the smartest person in the room, you are in the wrong room.”

    What irritated me about this was the narrow-minded view of smart. For this quote to be useful you need to be able to make an assessment of how smart each of the people in the room is and be arrogant enough to then decide that you are the smartest and I assume then leave the room to look for a room with a group of people smarter than you. It begs the question of where in the smartness ranking you want to be in order to think you are in the right room – I assume not the stupidest, maybe somewhere in the middle. It also smacked of a sense of entitlement – why would the smartest person, or anyone smarter than you, want to be in the room with you and what do you bring to the room. Taking i t to the absurd, one could imagine a person walking into the room, surveying and assessing the people, deciding if they are the smartest and either leaving or staying in the room. While doing this, assuming the pecking order has been established, the previously smartest person who may have been in the process of leaving needs to do their assessment and decide to leave or stay. Once the smartest person has left, the remaining people have to reassess the situation and the new smartest person (because there is a clear definition) will promptly leave the room and so the process continues. This is of course great for both collaboration and productivity. At some stage you will become the smartest person in the room supposedly surrounded by a bunch of dumb people and will once again need to leave. and look for a new room of smart people. Maybe I am being too literal.

    The main thing that this quote is missing (proving that people who love this quote are not the smartest) is that smart is multidimensional. One of the biggest benefits of diversity (in its most general sense) is that the best results will be achieved when everyone in the room is the smartest person in the field for which they are in the room.

    The idea that seemed to be proposed by this quote is that successful people surround themselves with people that are smarter than they are. While that may be true for specific skills, the reality is that the person who brought the others together is that they smartest at bringing together a great team, if they weren’t then someone else would have brought the others together.

    Best wishes, Anthony

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  3. Admitting one’s stupidity is actually very smart (Sokrates). 🙂
    One easy way to elevate yourself to the smartest person in the room.

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  4. This is so elegantly insightful that it deserves an Oscar! Good shot 🤜🤛

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  5. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

    ― C. S. Lewis

    Stupidity is an interesting thing. there is a variety of ways of being stupid, and having doen many stupid things Imamazed at the variety.
    what makes us stupid and not deal with reality.
    The first is lack of cognitive abilit, low g factor and all that. But someone once said he would rather be ruled by people chosen randomly out of the phone book than by harvard professors.
    You are realy stupid when you dont know your limitations.
    Lack of education can make you stupid. you can be brilliant but if you dont know the true facts about a situation, your brilliance can lead quickly to the wrong answer.
    Stupidity can also be caused by lack of emotional intelligence. Engineers often make poor politicians (and leaders of men) because of lack of insight (or simply concern) about the emotional state of the person he is dealing with.
    Greed and other things can cause much stupidity doing a destructive thing for short term benefit.
    But what really makes you stupid can be your world view/religion.
    All the isms true believers cause endless pain and misery, break the eggs and make no omlette.
    Communism has caused the death of 100m people, nazism was instrumental in a war that killed 40m people. The Taiping rebellion cause d the death of 15m chinese.
    And the latest manifestation of communism, cultural marxism is causing many boys to cut their own goolies off. eunuchs for their religion. indeed very stupid

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